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📰 Vitalik 这次聊的不是短期行情,而是密码学计算成本还能不能继续往下压。 他认为,SNARK、全同态加密(FHE)和不可区分混淆(iO)这三类技术,都有机会在本十年末把额外开销压到低于 10 倍。这里算的不是单一硬件价格,而是能源成本加上摊销后的计算成本。 🔥 更激进的判断是:三者有 33% 的概率做到“1+ε”级别。也就是说,当计算规模足够大时,加密处理增加的成本,可能逐渐接近原始计算本身。 💡 三者全部做到低于 10 倍开销的概率,他给到了 60%。但最有希望先实现个位数倍开销的,Vitalik 认为可能是 SNARK。 说实话,这个判断依然是他个人的非共识看法,不是已经落地的结果。专用哈希函数和部分大语言模型推理,目前已经达到类似水平,至少说明这条路并非完全停留在纸面上。 🤔 如果本十年末 SNARK 真的把计算开销压到个位数倍,你觉得最先被改变的会是区块链验证,还是隐私计算? #SNARK #以太坊 #密码学 #隐私计算
📰 Vitalik 这次聊的不是短期行情,而是密码学计算成本还能不能继续往下压。

他认为,SNARK、全同态加密(FHE)和不可区分混淆(iO)这三类技术,都有机会在本十年末把额外开销压到低于 10 倍。这里算的不是单一硬件价格,而是能源成本加上摊销后的计算成本。

🔥 更激进的判断是:三者有 33% 的概率做到“1+ε”级别。也就是说,当计算规模足够大时,加密处理增加的成本,可能逐渐接近原始计算本身。

💡 三者全部做到低于 10 倍开销的概率,他给到了 60%。但最有希望先实现个位数倍开销的,Vitalik 认为可能是 SNARK。

说实话,这个判断依然是他个人的非共识看法,不是已经落地的结果。专用哈希函数和部分大语言模型推理,目前已经达到类似水平,至少说明这条路并非完全停留在纸面上。

🤔 如果本十年末 SNARK 真的把计算开销压到个位数倍,你觉得最先被改变的会是区块链验证,还是隐私计算?

#SNARK #以太坊 #密码学 #隐私计算
𝗔𝗹𝗽𝗵𝗮: 𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗼𝗙𝗡𝗗𝗡 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗡𝗔𝗥𝗞 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝗽𝘂𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻’𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵 🚀 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘂𝗽 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁 Faster prover → consensus stays tight + fewer bottlenecks, so $ESP has real asymmetric upside vs similar launches If the market wakes up, this is next 10x then 100x potential @espressoFNDN #crypto #ZK #SNARK ⚠️
𝗔𝗹𝗽𝗵𝗮: 𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗼𝗙𝗡𝗗𝗡 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗡𝗔𝗥𝗞 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝗽𝘂𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻’𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵 🚀 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘂𝗽 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁

Faster prover → consensus stays tight + fewer bottlenecks, so $ESP has real asymmetric upside vs similar launches

If the market wakes up, this is next 10x then 100x potential
@espressoFNDN #crypto #ZK #SNARK ⚠️
$ETH BETS ON SHA/BLAKE: SNARK INNOVATION FLIPS THE OLD HASH PLAYBOOK 🧠⚙️ The liquidity of innovation often swings toward efficiency, but Ethereum is opting for durability. This isn't a casual tweak; it's a structural pivot away from Poseidon's exotic premises toward the hardened battlefields of SHA and BLAKE. 🛡️ Recent attacks on HAWK and SQIsign validated a deep-seated risk—when novel curves break, the fallout hits every layer. New binary-field SNARKs now push ~1M calls/sec on a laptop, making the ~100x CPU tax on tradition a non-issue. This is smart money securing the post-quantum base camp for the 2027 leanVM and 2028 CL/DL/EL rollout. 🏗️ This feels like a classic range-reclaim of cryptographic standards. Is this a bullish structural signal for Ethereum's long-term execution, or does the added CPU cost slow down domestic rollups? 💬 ⚠️ Not financial advice. Always manage your risk. 🛡️ 🏷️ #ETH #Ethereum #CryptoNews #SNARK #PostQuantum 📊
$ETH BETS ON SHA/BLAKE: SNARK INNOVATION FLIPS THE OLD HASH PLAYBOOK 🧠⚙️

The liquidity of innovation often swings toward efficiency, but Ethereum is opting for durability. This isn't a casual tweak; it's a structural pivot away from Poseidon's exotic premises toward the hardened battlefields of SHA and BLAKE. 🛡️

Recent attacks on HAWK and SQIsign validated a deep-seated risk—when novel curves break, the fallout hits every layer. New binary-field SNARKs now push ~1M calls/sec on a laptop, making the ~100x CPU tax on tradition a non-issue. This is smart money securing the post-quantum base camp for the 2027 leanVM and 2028 CL/DL/EL rollout. 🏗️

This feels like a classic range-reclaim of cryptographic standards. Is this a bullish structural signal for Ethereum's long-term execution, or does the added CPU cost slow down domestic rollups? 💬

⚠️ Not financial advice. Always manage your risk. 🛡️

🏷️ #ETH #Ethereum #CryptoNews #SNARK #PostQuantum

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