Brother Sun’s first in-person interview in three years. Personally, I found industry veteran Xiandao’s views sharper and more insightful than Alan Shao’s. You can search for “金明” on Douyin to watch the full interview. Many people may not know Xiandao: he holds multiple world records and placed first in Asia in the Coinbase trading competition a few days ago. He was also the only one of the ten contestants without a Twitter account—a low-profile heavyweight whose credentials speak for themselves.